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Watchdog - BMW engine problem

Post by LincsX5 » Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:12 am

Just caught the end of Watchdog and they are doing an item next week on a BMW engine problem. Any ideas? Swirl flaps maybe?
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Post by X5Sport » Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:23 am

A report on BMW Land refers to it being a timing chain issue on the N47 series of engines.  2.0D engine fitted to the 1, 3, 5, X1, X3 and Mini Countryman SD (b*gger that means us!!) models. 

Supposedly pre-2011 builds, but that may be because they haven't got enough miles on them yet.  Some owners have had chains snap - and that's definitely not supposed to happen with chains!!

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Re: Watchdog - BMW engine problem

Post by LincsX5 » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:56 pm

I wasn't aware of that issue. Having had a couple of CVH engines chuck a belt, fortunately at idle and a long time ago, I have always preferred chains. That must be a serious issue if chains are going, not to mention the ensuing cost if not under warranty. BMW have taken a few hits on Watchdog over the years so will be interested in watching this one even if it doesn't personally effect me, at the moment anyway.
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Re: Watchdog - BMW engine problem

Post by IanP » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:20 am

BMW do not have a good history with camchains/guides

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Post by X5Sport » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:54 pm

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I wasn't aware of that issue. Having had a couple of CVH engines chuck a belt, fortunately at idle and a long time ago, I have always preferred chains.
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Ah those were the days - they broke so often on Police Escort 1600's that they changed the belts at 6,000 mile intervals.  Happened to me once in an Escort van - and the damage was impressive!!

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Post by LincsX5 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:28 pm

It was a couple of Orion 1.6i Ghias in the mid 80s that did it. Luckily only a few bent valves and guides and an easy DIY job. Had mainly Land Rovers and Saabs since. Rather have a bit of extra noise than have a rubber band give up the ghost.
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Re: Watchdog - BMW engine problem

Post by X5Sport » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:14 am

:o  :o  That's not good!!  I thought duplex chains were in use these days.

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Post by gmc15 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:00 am

Had a chain snap on a 3.0l 24v Senator many years ago - wrecked the top end of the engine :(
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Post by Finglonga » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:31 am

There must be thousands of these engines fitted but only three cases on Watchdog. I remember the 19" wheel cracking problem at the end of the show there were loads of calls with people having the same issue. Hopefully that is a good sign that there were no more phone calls with others that have had the same failure. ....... That's what the wife is hoping for anyway.
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Re: Watchdog - BMW engine problem

Post by LincsX5 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:44 am

So it was the N47 engine between 2007 and 2009. Hopefully it is only a few isolated incidents. Not sure how many reports Watchdog need to run these stories.
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Re: Watchdog - BMW engine problem

Post by Chompers » Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:48 pm

My Freindly sevice guy rang last night to say not to worry. He had over 100 calls about the program  :blink:
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